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The Tenets of Good Podcasting
The first and most important thing you need to ask yourself is āShould I be doing a podcast?ā
If youāre reading a book about how to do podcasts, you probably have an answer already. Or at least you think you do.
This is the moment to face some hard truths about podcasting.
As stated in the introduction, unless youāre a famous wrestler, reality star or celebrity, youāre going to start off with a small audience. You can grow that audience over time with a lot of hard work, but your audience is going to be smaller than you thinkāa lot smaller.
You need to have a passion for your topic.
Nearly all the podcasters interviewed for this book stressed the importance of having a passion for your topic, almost above any other piece of advice they had to offer. For this reason, itās the first tenet of podcasting: Have a passion for the topic. Are you going to be as excited about this topic in episode 200 as you were in episode 1?
If the topic doesnāt make, and keep, you fired up, how can you make your audience care? How can you keep them interested in what you have to say?
Adam Sachs, the former CEO of Midroll Media, said that podcasters should really love the medium and love whatever it is that theyāre talking about.
āI think a unique kind of a corollary similar to that is having a unique point of view and format,ā he said. āYou know, if there are 400,000 or 500,000 podcasts out there, why are people going to choose yours? We always talk about how weāre competing for peopleās time almost more than anything, right? Thereās only so many podcasts that people can listen to when you think about their daily lives and the other media that theyāre consuming. Coming to the table with something uniqueāthat makes it very clear that thereās a reason for people to tune in and listen. I think it is really important.ā1
Laura Mayer, director of production at Panoply, launched her first podcast early in her career.
Starting a podcast is āwhat made me realize what I ultimately wanted to do with my life, which ended up being making podcasts,ā she said. āBut I think that itās a good way to kind of put yourself on the line in terms of making your voice heard in particular. And thatās something that can help clarify a lot of direction for peopleā¦. Pick one thing you really want to talk about and you think you can talk about every week and with other people, ideally, or ⦠by yourself and just try it.ā2
Despite all the hoopla around the podcasting boom, audience size should not be something that holds you back from starting a podcast.
āIf the first podcast you put out there has three listeners, thatās fine,ā Mayer said. āAnd it shouldnāt be about listenership necessarily. Thereās a lot right now, of course, with the podcast boom and a lot of business interest in that kind of thing. No one, when theyāre starting a podcast, should necessarily think, āIām going to start my first podcast and Iām going to be a star.ā I think that starting your first podcast is a great way to find your own voice and ⦠figure out how you can best utilize it in whatever medium you end up making things in.ā3
Podcasting Is Hard; Do the Work
Producing a podcast with any regularity is difficult. Beyond having passion for the topic, you need to be committed to doing the work necessary to succeed.
āItās hard,ā said Todd Cochrane, CEO of Raw Voice, the company behind the Blubrry podcast hosting platform. āThis is hard. I always tell content creators that ask me this question, āAre you passionate enough to talk a couple times a week about a topic for two years? Is there enough stuff in your head, or is there enough material or enough people, to be able to sustain a show for a couple of years?āā4
Two years is not just a magic number Cochrane pulled out of the air.
āIād like them to think about two years instead of six weeks or seven weeks, because what we seeāand this number has stayed pretty steady throughout the yearsāabout 50 percent of shows, new shows, never make it to episode 7,ā he said. āThey quit. They figure, āOh, Iāve only got 100 people listening to meā or āI only got 50, and Iām doing horrible and this is too hard.ā If they can make it past [episode] 7, usually those shows that do, theyāll make it to about episode 25. Thatās where we see another drop-off. We typically will lose some more there.
āDoing audio content, while it seems easy, you have to have fresh stuff to talk about. If you donāt have a topic that lends itself to feeding you fresh information every week, youāre going to have a very, very tough time.ā5
You need a constant flow of fresh ideas, a good topic, enthusiasm for that topic and the energy to keep a podcast going week in and week out for an indefinite period of time.
āFor me, itās easy. I do a tech show,ā said Cochrane, who hosts Geek News Central and co-hosts The New Media Show. āThereās always new stuff. But if I was doing a show talking to business leaders, then Iād have to be scrambling every week to get a guest or two booked to get them interviewed. Thatās hard, hard work. For me, I do an hour-and-a-half, two hoursā worth of research, and, bam, Iām up and running. I do a 70-minute show and it just flows. But [for] some of these other folks, it can be a real struggle.ā6
A typical 35-minute episode of Itās All Journalism, for example, takes about 45 minutes to an hour to record. But before we even turn on the microphones, hours of work go into pre-production, from choosing and researching a topic, to finding a guest or guests, to juggling schedules, to determining whether weāre going to record in studio or by phone or Skype and writing up questions. Thatās all the work before the interview. Once the audio is in the can, itās post-production time. We have to edit it, upload it to our audio server, write up a story to accompany the audio on our website and share it out on social media. Itās almost a second job.
āThe biggest advice is āUnderstand that itās going to be hard and, if youāre going to talk about something, you have to have a topic youāre super passionate about,āā Cochrane said.7
Fresh out of college, Megan Tan, creator of Radiotopiaās Millennial podcast, faced a lot of uncertainty and insecurity about producing her first podcast episode. Although she had a degree in photojournalism, what she really wanted to do was audio storytelling for radio, but she had no experience and no idea how to start out.
āMillennial was not supposed to be like a sustainable podcast,ā she said. āIt was not to have been for a whole bunch of strangers to hear, really. It was just like a portfolio piece. I essentially wanted to become a radio producer. I didnāt know where to begin. So I thought, āWhy not make a portfolio that I can show future employers?ā And that was Millennial.ā8
The first season of Millennial follows Tan as she moves out of her parentsā home and into her boyfriendās apartment, finds a part-time job as a waitress andāwith a great deal of trepidationālaunches her podcast.
āNothing was really planned, to be honest,ā Tan said. āI really felt like I didnāt have the confidence to go out and essentially talk to people and tell them I was a reporter or a producer, because in my mind I wasnāt one yet. I just thought: āWhy not pull from an experience thatās right under my feet? Iāve analyzed and read a lot of books about story and narrative. And I know what makes a really great narrative. Story is change.ā And I thought, āMan, in your 20s, all you do is change.āā9
Figure 1.1 Megan Tan is the host of Millennial.
A Podcast Is a Promise; Post Regular Episodes on Time
One of the key decisions you need to make when youāre planning a podcast is how often you expect to post a new episode. Will it be monthly, bimonthly, weekly, biweekly, daily? Itās important for a couple of reasons.
First, determining how often episodes are posted will help establish the workflow. Be realistic about how much time you have to commit. If youāre doing it as a hobby or a once-in-a-while thing, posting biweekly or monthly is probably an easy stretch.
The downside of taking so long to post, though, is itās harder to build an audience when thereās too much time between episodes.
Figure 1.2 John Lee Dumas is the host of EOFire.
John Lee Dumas posts a new episode of his podcast EOFire (Entrepreneur on Fire) seven days a week.
āBack in 2012, I was, every day, driving to a job I did not like at all, and kind of my solace was to listen to audio books,ā he said. āThat got a little expensive, because audio books arenāt cheap. So, I kind of found podcasts as a great, free, targeted, and just valuable source of the audio for my commutes to work and workouts at the gym.ā10
Dumas gobbled up all the entrepreneur-based podcasts he could find, like Planet Money, Freakomonics and Pat Flynnās Smart Passive Income Podcast.
āI was like, these guys have got something going,ā Dumas said. āItās pretty cool. But the problem is Patās only doing two a month. I need more content than that. Iām driving to work five days a week. Iām hitting the gym three or four days a week. So I said, āI need to find a daily podcast thatās interviewing entrepreneurs so that I can have one every single day as Iām driving to work.ā It didnāt exist. And I said: āYou know what? I donāt like my job and I love Gandhi.ā And he says, āBe the change you want to see in the world.ā I wanted to see a seven-day-a-week podcast existāit didnāt. I said: āWhy not me? Letās do this.āā11
On the other end of the spectrum, you have someone like Dan Carlin, who releases a new episode of Hardcore History every three or four months. Those episodes, however, are highly researched and detailed, professionally produced audio performancesālectures, almostāabout significant moments in history. Theyāre gems of long-form storytelling, well worth the wait.
Likewise, t...