A Conversation with Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz
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A Conversation with Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz

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A Conversation with Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz

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TAN SRI DATUK SERI RAFIDAH ABDUL AZIZ was Malaysia's longest serving-Minister of International Trade and Industry, holding the position from 1987 to 2008. As Minister, Tan Sri charted a firm path for Malaysia's growth as a trading nation within the ASEAN region and internationally. Under her leadership, Malaysia successfully negotiated numerous trade deals and carved concessions from multilateral agreements such as the AFTA. Although retired from politics, Tan Sri is an active corporate leader, chairing the board of AirAsia X.

Tan Sri Rafidah was one of the country's earliest professional economists, having earned her Bachelor's and Master's degree from Universiti Malaya. This conversation traces her childhood to her years in academia and subsequently, her entry into politics, highlighting the turning points and events that shaped her leadership style. She also shares her views on trade negotiations, women in leadership, education, and politics. This publication shines a spotlight on one of Malaysia's most dynamic leaders, Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz.

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1

Childhood

DR. MOHD SHAHWAHID (DMS) | Assalamualaikum and a very good morning. We are most honoured to be here with Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz, the Non-Executive Independent Chairman and Director of AirAsia X, Chairman of Supermax Corporation Berhad, and Malaysia’s former Minister of International Trade and Industry. To start this interview, Tan Sri, please tell us about your family background.
TAN SRI RAFIDAH AZIZ (TSR) | I had a very normal childhood. I was not much of a child, however; I matured very fast. I don’t remember playing with dolls or toys, but I do remember requesting for a pen or a pencil set for my birthday. I liked anything to do with writing!
I played with the boys in my neighbourhood. In Kampung Baru, I played kites with the late Jamal Pendek1 and his brothers. I spun tops which I made from the branches of the pokok jambu batu (guava tree) near my house. I played with marbles, kotak rokok (a game involving discarded cigarette boxes), and enjoyed other games that girls usually didn’t play. I never thought that I was different because I was the only girl in the group, and the boys never thought that I was different either.
Other than those games, I often pretended to be a teacher. I was a six-year old girl playing the role of teacher, asking younger kids, “Now, what is two plus two?”. That was my childhood.
I learned responsibility at an early age. When I was around eight or nine years old, my mother sent me off to the market every Sunday morning with a list of things to buy, because she was busy doing other chores at home. I was instructed to carefully choose fish, shellfish, vegetables, and tofu. It was not a big deal to me. I carried a bamboo basket and jotted the list in a pocketbook. It was the kind of pocketbook where we kept track of our debts to shopkeepers, for example, groceries we bought on credit, like sugar, flour, and rice. In this way, I assumed responsibility at a very young age without any conscious realisation. It seemed normal to my parents and me.
Before I went to school, I cooked breakfast. I boiled water using firewood, laid out the tablecloth on the floor, and placed our breakfast and coffee on it. If I felt like eating fried rice, I cooked leftover rice. I always cooked some for my parents. At eight years old, I was ironing my own clothes. It was really adulthood at a young age but it seemed perfectly normal. My three other siblings didn’t have to do any of these tasks unless they were told.
They had what you would call a ‘normal’ childhood. Maybe I was born different. Maybe I was an old person born into a child’s body.
When I was in school, I didn’t play with friends during recess. Instead, I went to the library and read books. When I was in Kota Bharu, Dato’ Nik Ishak was my Standard Four teacher. He had just returned from Kirkby Teachers’ College in Liverpool, UK. During recess, I would see whether he had finished eating and if he had, I would go up to the class and we would chat. I enjoyed chatting with him. I can’t remember what it was exactly that we talked about, but it was not some childish chatter! Dato’ Nik Ishak later on named his daughter after me so I must have struck a chord in his heart. I was also active in uniformed bodies such as Girl Guides, Rangers, and Red Cross, and took part in almost every activity at school.

1Jamal Muhamad was a TV personality best-known for his role as Speaker in the Mini Parliament series

2

School

DR. NORMAZ WANA (DNW) | What were your favourite subjects in school?
TSR | I loved all subjects because the curriculum back then was very balanced. I wish we could return to those days! We had gardening classes every Friday morning, where each student was given a strip of garden or batas and told to make the best of that strip. It was up to us to grow whatever we wanted: flowers, chillies, anything. There were even gardening competitions!
We also had domestic Science classes where we learned how to sew, knit, or crochet. I am still able to do all these. Just give me knitting needles and wool, and I will knit anything for you! My work would never be exhibited, but that isn’t the point. The point is that I am able to do it. There were basic cooking classes too.
That is why it was easy for me to handle these tasks at home because we were taught the skills in school.
I also loved science. Science excited me very much. I spent a lot of time in the library reading science books and encyclopaedias, as our family couldn’t afford them. I remember how exhilarating it was to read about astronomy.

DMS | The story goes that you enrolled yourself into an English school at the age of seven, instead of attending the Malay-medium school chosen by your parents. Is this true and if so, what were your reasons?
TSR | I did go to a Malay school. The school was just behind my home, Sekolah Kampung Baru1. I was there from Standard One until Standard Three. When we were in Standard Three, a state-wide examination was conducted to determine which students could go to English schools. When the teacher asked who was interested, I put up my hand.
I didn’t tell my parents that I was going to sit for that examination, because then they would expect me to do well as I was one of the top students. Finally, in October that year, I was selected to go to Convent Bukit Nanas (CBN). At the time, it was the best English school for girls, and all the top students were chosen to go there.
Once I was selected, I thought, now what do I do?
First of all, I had to buy a school uniform. Where would I get the money to buy a school uniform?
My father was the first Malay graduate of the College of Agriculture but he could not stand being dictated to by the ‘colonial masters’, so to speak, so each time an orang putih (Caucasian) boss made him upset, he resigned within 24 hours. For us it was a big deal, but to him, it was a matter of nationalistic pride. Hence, when we were in Kampung Baru, my father was holding down various jobs to make ends meet.
My mother was hanging our clothes to dry one morning when I told her that I needed a new school uniform. She asked me what was wrong with the one I had. I revealed to her then that I had been accepted into CBN. She was very happy because she had been denied further education by her parents. My grandparents hadn’t liked the idea of her going to an English school because they thought it was a school for Christians. They thought the same about me going to CBN to study. Even my friends thought so, too, but I didn’t listen to them.
Fortunately, my father was an educated person, so he supported my decision, and my mother agreed to buy me a new uniform. That, however, is not the whole story.
My father taught English at Goon Institute in the evenings. I wanted to speak English like my father, as I was frustrated that I could not converse with him in English.
I told him that I wanted to study at Goon Institute and my father said that it was only for grown-ups. I stubbornly insisted, and my father finally gave in and enrolled me in an English class. But he didn’t teach me. Do you know who did? Datuk Noordin Ahmad, who later became the chief of Bernama (Malaysian National News Agency). I can still remember Datuk Noordin complaining how I was such a nuisance, because he had to lift me up to a stool, as I was just a small kid. But I had a full year in Standard Three to learn English at Goon Institute. At the end of that year, I was able to converse in English very well. I was always very determined when I set a goal; I just had to achieve it!
When I went to the Special Malay Class (SMC) in CBN, I was practically the only one who could speak English. The teacher was Caucasian. While my friends were still struggling, I was conversing with my teacher. That helped me to advance in class. Technically, I was qualified for a double promotion but the school told my father that I was too young and that it would be a shame for me to skip some parts of my early education. The rest of my classmates went for a double promotion but during Form Three, some of them failed. I went the usual route and did not fail any exam. I was thankful that I didn’t have to catch up on my studies like my friends needed to, but it was unfortunate that some failed their Form Three exams.

DMS | It seems that from a very young age, you instinctively set your own path, instead of following what other people did.
TSR | Well, I followed what the elders told me. The teachers, for example, taught me integrity, only they called it honesty. Perhaps integrity was too big a word for children to understand.
When I was in Special Malay Class Two in CBN, the nuns taught us that if you found a five-cent coin on the floor, you shouldn’t take it for yourself, because that five cents belongs to someone else. It could be someone’s bus ride home, or it could be someone’s recess money (in those days, five cents was valuable but today, you would just throw it away). If you took it, then the person would be without her lunch money or worse, she would have to walk all the way home. So what you should do is to pick up that coin and hand it to a teacher. The teacher would then look for the student who had lost that five-cent coin. That is honesty. I tell you this story because it struck me so distinctly. That was my first lesson on integrity. Now people translate integrity in various ways and in bigger contexts.
I went to CBN for Special Malay Class One and Two, as well as Standard Three, and then I studied in Kota Bharu from Standard Four to Standard Six. I returned to CBN after that, and later studied at Convent Johor Bharu for two years. My father was transferred all over the country, so we had to follow him. Each and every one of those schools added something to my life in terms of lessons and experience.
The convent schools were ...

Table of contents

  1. Title Page
  2. Contents
  3. Copyright
  4. Foreword
  5. Foreword
  6. Introduction
  7. Profile
  8. Interviewer’s Profile
  9. Interviewer’s Profile
  10. 1. Childhood
  11. 2. School
  12. 3. Malayan Emergency
  13. 4. Economics & University
  14. 5. Lecturing
  15. 6. Politics
  16. 7. Becoming Minister
  17. 8. International Trade
  18. 9. Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA)
  19. 10. Setting High Standards
  20. 11. Leadership
  21. 12. Women
  22. 13. Government-Linked Companies (GLCs)
  23. 14. Fears & Hopes
  24. About Perdana Leadership Foundation